Response to David: Religion & The Homosexual Problem

04th of June 2008

RESPONSE TO DAVID: RELIGION & THE HOMOSEXUAL PROBLEM

A friend of mine made me aware of this blog post on MySpace (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=194028640&blogid=394910215). The original post is below and before you read it and get angry or congratulate David on his statements, please read my response. David is not a bad person for blindly following what he truly believes is Christian doctrine, but rather the hate that spews forth as dribble from those religious leaders who would rather propagate hate as apposed to the real doctrine thought by Jesus Christ - Love!

I responded to Nate and reminded him that we must not blame the blind followers like David for the error in his faith. Faith in God is never wrong, but yes it can be misguided. It was Christ himself who said those who deem themselves the chosen will be the last to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. This was said not because their faith is wrong, but because they choose to blindly follow those who purposely miss-direct. You see organized religion has always had two masters and only one of them is God. The other is themselves and has nothing to do with faith, but yet their love of money and power. Can we learn from them and focus our faith in a positive direction? Yes!, we can and many do. So how is religion failing all of humanity and what can we do about it…why should we not blame people like David when they perpetuate the hate and loathing they were taught?

We must look beyond people like David who should be intelligent enough to truly and honestly read the guides we were given such as the Bible and other text with an open heart. Interpreting those words for ourselves and defining exactly what those texts teach us. North America is a continent of literal Christian followers who blindly allow other people to determine what they believe and how they trust it. In doing so they hand their faith over to someone else regardless of the biased within that person and why that leader decided to lead followers. Most people can’t tell you much more about their clergy other than their position within the church and most religious leaders have learned how to hide what is truly within their hearts. Even when they have the best of intentions, they can often time be the follower to others and just simply pass down the congregational messages as the church decrees them too instead of actually following their faith. Because of these and many other reasons, we have a nation of blind followers with the numbers diminishing as it alarms the folds.

Religious organizations can’t understand why young adults are leaving the flocks by the droves and they can’t seem to stave off the flow. Our young adults mock people like David because they are reading and interpreting for themselves. They’ve learned to think for themselves and their following their own hearts. They are leading in a new focus of actual truth with faith in ones self first and that is not diametrically apposed to Christian teachings…actually it is exactly what Jesus had in mind. They are finding a way to love themselves first and with that love they are finding faith in God through Jesus’ Love. That is the true meaning of Christianity and religion as a whole. These young men and women are defying the church with their messages of hate and loathing and showing the world around them that the true meaning of Love starts with ones self.

I can argue the horrendous points verse by verse with someone like David who will quote Genesis, Ecclesiastes and Roman as to how God was against homosexuals. I can also bring your attentions to those same verses and show how religious leaders use literal translations to garner the meanings they desire as to push forth fear, shame and a hate that drops more money into their offerings while in sighting those followers who might better understand the Bible and its true meaning. I don’t find fighting against unfounded charges from bigots who are so unhappy with their own lives that they find demoralizing someone else as a means of making themselves feel worthy and somewhat closer to God. What they do is exactly what God and later Christ warned them against and is exactly why those who call themselves followers will be the last to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

When we approach faith with love and an open heart, we don’t buy into false demigods such as hate and we aren’t forced to use tactics such as oppression to enlighten our soul. When we approach faith with love, we know that we are closer with God by loving all of his creations equally just as Jesus showed by his example. Trust yourself to know when even those people we would normally agree with their convictions are delivering false praise and using the Bible as a weapon instead of a divining rod to teach the true meaning of religion to all who might believe…LOVE!

David – I know you went out of your way to appear kind to the homosexuals because in your heart you don’t hate us. I also know without a doubt that your knowledge and faith in God is based on a foundation of lies and misdirection taught to you by organized religion. To prove my point to you, ask yourself this simple question; if Jesus were in front of me right now and I asked him for his love, what would he deliver back to me as a response? Did he ever once denounce or reject anyone who reached out to him? When his apostles made comments or discussed someone or something in a negative manner, was it not Jesus who always brought them back to a place of Love and Acceptance? If Jesus would not reject me…why do you?

As for a couple other comments that need to be corrected in your text: the word gay was originally used as a derogatory and slag word to put down queers, faggots and homosexuals. It was only in the late 50’s and early 60’s that we turned the negative connotations of the word gay to be used in a positive means for our community. As for the history of the Pride Flag (Rainbow Flag), its originations cannot be traced because it has been used throughout most of time by those being oppressed. While the gay and lesbian community has use of this representation of Gods Love, it was used before us by those South Africans who were oppressed by a government and killed for the color of their skin. It was used by slaves before them here in America again as a symbol of freedom and also by the Underground Railroad as a marker by those seeking to relinquish the shackles of their owners. Its history is long and all who have regaled this symbolic rainbow have done so while they fight oppressive people who deny freedom and liberty from them and I am very sure that when the homosexual groups have finally received true equality on these shores, its colors from heaven will be used by another group who is unjustly denounced by those others. As for you respectful words and opposition to our group; it doesn’t matter if your words are as spiteful as those from Mr. Phelps or as you write in a more respectful manner. Hate is wrong and is never the way to God and absolutely never in reference of him. If you wish to express hate for a group, have the courage to use your words and speak from your heart and do not claim to be the messenger of a deity such as God. Neither you nor anyone else is worthy of his name!

As for the position the California Supreme Court takes, it is their job to ensure the laws for the state of California do not unjustly oppress any group of her citizens. It does not matter if those laws are passed by a Congress, Legislature or by the citizens; justice is blind to the events except to those where justice does not serve. The Judges did as they need to do and should be followed in every state where the citizens were scared into voting for bills that create inequality for any of the citizens living within her borders. I can only hope and prey that all states that used its people to vote in hate legislation has a judicial body courageous enough to strike down those laws that denigrate any group of citizens.

I have disseminated enough information that counters your very thoughts and I shall leave you now. I can only hope that you choose to read my message with an open heart and an open mind. If you are angry with me for refuting your ascertains, please think of one final thought…would Christ denounce me for who I am…or would he ask you to love me because of who I am?

Your humble servant – Todd M. Dobson
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So most of you have probably already heard; the gay marriage ban has been overturned by the Supreme Court in California "paving the way for California to become the second state" to legalize gay marriage.
Well first off, gay marriage has not only always been legal, but in fact encouraged. It's actually homosexual marriage that has been made acceptable in the eyes of the so-called Supreme Court. Ya, the word gay has been hijacked by the homosexual community.

My first response was shock, then sadness, then anger. I wanted to be mad at the homosexual people. They are after all, the ones in blatant sin. And through that sin are unwittingly helping to destroy our country.
I could be angry that homosexuals hijacked the word gay. I could be angry they have mocked God by using the rainbow as their symbol. I could be appalled at the way they flaunt themselves at their "Gay Pride" parades (and I can't help but think about the verse from Philippians 3:19 "…and their glory is their shame.").
I admit I'm tempted to say hurtful things and more. I won't though. I won't stoop to the level of the Westboro Baptist Church, the knuckle head here on myspace who proclaims himself to be a mountain preacher or those like them that teach that God hates certain people.

I'm definitely ticked at the California Supreme Court. How could they go against the majority of the American people on this? What arrogance! What ignorance! It's nothing short of liberal fascism.

However, I can't really blame homosexuals who are just doing what those outside of Christ do – rebel against God. That is the "natural" thing to do if you're not a believer.
I know that those who defy God will get theirs; at some point anyway. This is not to the pleasure of God, but to His justice.

I know too, that the so-called California Supreme Court will be held accountable by God for the failure to uphold that which is right. The four who voted for this are despicable. They will surely answer to the true Supreme Court – God.

You know who I'm really ticked at? Christians! That's right, Christians. All those who suppose themselves to be, yet deny the Word of God and have been conformed to the views of the world, the culture.
Shame on us! How we have failed the world, our country, our fellow man, our families, and our God.

The liberal mind-set of those who claim to be Christians disgusts me to no end. The ignorance, the twisting of the Word of God or the flat out denying of it is deplorable. It's the same reason that abortion has been allowed in this country, that God has been booted from our schools, that the farce of evolution is taught as fact, that every belief in this country is tolerated except Christianity, and much more.
That so many Christians have gone to the side of Satan on these and other issues is why they have been allowed to legally prevail.

So how did it start? What is the real problem or problems? These events are just symptoms after all. What is at the root of the problem?
Is it just the twisting of Scripture? Using one or two passages to create an entire philosophy for the acceptance of abortion or homosexuality? And this despite the clear evidence that God hates these sins?
Is it the flat out denying of Scripture? The fulfilling of Scripture that many turn away to words and beliefs that tickle their ears?
Is it the failure to pray? This is severely neglected and keeps the Christian thinking, working, and creating in his own strength and wisdom.
Is it the secularization of the Christian community, the Church? Secular is not the elimination of God like many think. It is putting Him second! We are however on the way to eliminating Him in our culture. Today was one more step in that direction.
Is it the neglect and/or ignorance of Scripture? This too is pervasive among Christians. Not just liberals, but conservatives as well. However, we do see many more liberals among certain denominations like Episcopalians or Catholics. Not to pick on these two groups and I know it does not speak to all of them, but they are at the forefront of Christian liberalism. It's shameful!

And what's with this Pope? I try to keep on good terms with Catholics and emphasize those truths we agree on, but for crying out loud – aliens!? He was already on my bad side for taking the position that true salvation is only found through the Catholic Church in violation of Scripture. But aliens? What nonsense. He would do good to read the Bible and stick to that and leave the alien garbage to the Sci-Fi channel.
(Now I know the Pope himself did not make these statements. However, nothing comes out of the Vatican without his blessing. My point it this: many Catholics defy the Word of God on the issues of abortion, homosexual marriage, etc. even though the Pope speaks out against them. So you would think he would speak more about these things than allow the Vatican to release comments telling Catholics it's ok to believe in aliens - it's a ludicrous distraction from that which is truly important).

I don't know what exactly the root cause is, but I do know that it both starts with the Church and is a result of liberal un-Biblical thinking.

Am I overreacting? Am I too emotional over this? I don't think so. I mean, I do know God is in control. I know this didn't catch Him off guard; He was not shocked as I was. I do know He's not pleased though.
I know too that as our country descends into a deeper state of immorality, that we all suffer.
While I despise much of the teaching by Reverend Wright, when he said after 9/11 the chickens have come home to roost, I agreed! I just disagree as to why. While I can't tell you for sure why, I would say our killing a million babies a year could be a strong possibility. The point is, it will get worse as God withdraws His protection on us to allow His discipline to us for our failure to love Him and to obey Him.

So it's a sad day here in America, a sad day indeed. We the Church, have only ourselves to blame.